Jesse interviews pastor Bill Vanderbush. Bill currently serves as a Lead Trainer for the Bethel Austin School of Ministry in Austin, Texas.

Keep in mind that Jesse and Bill disagree on issues related to the gospel (hell, the attributes of God, etc.). The goal of this interview is to help viewers understand how someone's faith can change over time (pre-Bethel, during Bethel, and post-Bethel).

Original video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNHJEj6RFL8